JEWISH NOBEL PRIZE WINNERS…..Why So Many?
By Michael Lang on Oct 10, 2007 in BRAIN FOOD
Having an inquisitive mind, I often surf the information superhighway otherwise known as the Internet and always come across interesting bits of information that tends to raise questions resulting in articles written for The Lang Report.
As this is a regular occurrence, I will be adding an ongoing category titled "Brain Food" which I am sure my readers will find more than worthwhile.
Here’s a little tidbit of information which is a sample of things to come,
Statistics have always fascinated me as numbers, like words, can tell a story through their interpretation and therein lies the key. We have all seen one politician rattling off an array of numbers in an effort to make their point, only to be followed by their adversary making a counter-point using the same figures. How is that possible?
Mark Twain wrote: "There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and statistics."
I remembered once reading about the extraordinary amount of Nobel prizes won by people of Jewish ancestry compared to other population segments. I do have some theories as to why this is so but I will save them for a later article. Even though I was born Jewish myself, I am not making any judgments as to the superiority of Jews over any other group. I am merely publishing an existing statement of fact.
Read on and draw your own conclusions…..OK?
From a pool of 12 million Jews (0.2% of the world’s population) which works out to 2 out of every 1,000 people there are 178 Nobel Prize winners
From a pool of 1.4 billion Muslims (20% of the world’s population) which works out to 2 out of every 10 people there are 9 Nobel Prize winners
Based on these numbers, the Muslims represent 117 times the number of Jews! Based upon this 117:1 Muslim-to-Jewish ratio, one might expect the Muslims to have 24,920 Nobel Laureates, but have only 9.
Why do you think that is so? Thankfully the answer is not a simple one as it must take into account many factors. We will discuss these and more in a subsequent post.
123 Comment(s)
By Victor Gordon on Apr 25, 2008 | Reply
Can’t agree with your figures. I 1.4 million Muslims only produced 9 Nobel Prize winners how can that work out to 2 in every 10 people ?? The same applies to the Jews figure.
By bob on Apr 25, 2008 | Reply
you should compare to the number of Christians in the world and how many Nobel prizes Christians have won as well.
By Michael Lang on Apr 25, 2008 | Reply
Victor, if you visit http://www.jewishmag.com/99mag/nobel/nobel.htm you will find where I got the facts that I did. According to this website, there are 6 Moslem Nobel Prize winner versus 165 Jewish Nobel Prize winners.
Do your own due dilligence and let me know what you come up with.
They are astounding stats!
Mike Lang
Publisher
By Michael Lang on Apr 25, 2008 | Reply
Bob, the point of the article was to illustrate the amazingly huge “ratio” of Nobel Prize winners within the Jewish community. I would be fairly certain that there are more christian Bobel Prize winners the Jewish winners. However when compairing “ratios” there is no contest!
I invite you not to take my word for it and do your own research. Go to: http://www.jewishmag.com/99mag/nobel/nobel.htm and convince yourself of the truth.
Mike Lang
Publisher
By elliot bell on May 6, 2008 | Reply
With some 4000 years of heavy emphasis on education in the home and common study of Torah and Talmud the “smart gene” grew stronger.
By Mike Lang on May 6, 2008 | Reply
Elliot, short but profound! I was always fascinated by the overwhelming evidence of the Jewish intellect’s accomplishments and the reasons for it. Perhaps it is as simple as you say. More will be revealed as the Kabballah says.
Mike Lang
Publisher
By Dave on May 13, 2008 | Reply
Because you all have your heads up your ass.
Sitting here talking about how many noble prizes Jews have won.
In 5000 years of history, you still haven’t figured out how to make people like you.
Might not be as smart as you’d like to think.
By Michael Lang on May 13, 2008 | Reply
Dave, the article’s purpose was not to convince anybody of the superiority of Jews but to point out the “facts” and try to understand the annomaly of them. Why is it so?
It was meant to be an intellectual dialogue which obvious went way over your small-minded head.
Do you have anything intelligent to add to better understand the issue.
The category is “BRAIN FOOD” which means you have to bring your brain to the table.
You, Dave obviously lost yours along the way and chose only to show your bigotry.
Obvious for all to see…how does it feel?
Mike Lang - Publisher
By Dave on May 14, 2008 | Reply
I’m using facts too.
Use your Jewish logic.
Over thousands of years of Jewish history, other ethnic groups have came and went, Jews have moved in and out of other cultures, and the foreign cultures themselves have changed.
But their are two constants that have not changed over thousands of years.
1. The Jewish people.
2. People hate you.
After a 5000 year trial period, wouldn’t you be inclined to believe that this correlation might prove causation?
By Michael Lang on May 14, 2008 | Reply
Dave, I am having difficulty understanding where you’re coming from. There is no denying that Jews have been persecuted throughout history and we can debate that another time however please remember that this argument started with the publication of facts…facts which I actually found to be intersting for their lopsidedness, which again, there is no denying.
Your vibe, however seems to come from a place of hate.
If people hate me for being a Jew, what does it say about them? That they are the product of 5000 years of history? What a cop out!
You appear to be an intelligent guy so please, if you care to, help us understand your motivation…OK?
Mike
By Dave on May 14, 2008 | Reply
It’s simple.
If people consistently hate you, then it becomes less likely that there is something wrong with these individuals and more likely that there is something about you that is causing them to hate you.
People generally don’t hate virtuous people.
Given the knifes edge that Jewish society balances on, would it not be a good idea that Jews examine what they are doing to make people hate them?
The stink of pride in this article might speaks to what I’m talking about.
By Michael Lang on May 14, 2008 | Reply
OK Dave, it is now obvious to me that you are not intersted in a dialogue but more interested in justifying hate. I do suggest that you examine “the nature of hate” but I have little hope that you’ll do so.
You’ve pigeon-holed me and there is no remedy for that.
If you feel the need to get thet last word in, I will let you do so. After that, take it elsewhere and I wish you well.
I will leave you with this. If you hate me (and you don’t even know me) then it is your hate…let me repeat, YOUR HATE provoked by what? Think about it.
See ya………….
By Dave on May 14, 2008 | Reply
Anyway, let me wrap this up.
I don’t hate the Jews. I hate the people that use their parents as a source of pride rather than their own accomplishments and character. This article spoke to that peave of mine, and that’s why I bothered posting.
But let me give you some insight into what I’m getting at.
The Jews seem to be especially good at isolating themselves from their host societies.
This isolation probably left them vulnerable to the public support that was needed for the holocaust.
This isolation is going to land them in hot water again in the middle-east.
And will continue to be a problem until they learn that it is better to be friends than strangers.
I have a feeling there would be less murdered Jews if more of them had understood the concept of Win-Win.
I have no doubt that Jews are the chosen people. But from what I know of scripture God doesn’t choose his people based on their strengths. Weaknesses better illustrate his message. I suspect the disciples were far from perfect for this reason.
Romans 9-11 has some insight on this that you might appreciate. whether or not you believe in the new testament scripture is moot. These passages will provide insight on the interpretation of the term ‘chosen people’.
The Jews are chosen not for any special characteristics, as your article could imply. They are chosen to spread the word of God to the world. Consider the location of the promised land and it might be easier to conclude the Jews were ‘chosen’ because they were best situated to spread God’s word.
If the term ‘chosen people’ continues to fuel the pride of the Jews, then I suspect they will be subject to the same problems they have been dealing with through their history.
Here’s a quote from Einstein you might appreciate.
“As far as my experience goes, they are also no better than other human groups, although they are protected from the worst cancers by a lack of power. Otherwise I cannot see anything ‘chosen’ about them.”
By Michael Lang on May 14, 2008 | Reply
Dave, thank you for presenting an intelligent argument even though i find fault with your premise.
You spoke of being recognized for “their own accomplishment”…. Isn’t receiving the Nobel Prize an accomplishment given solely for acheivement. It is apolitical so if a person wins it….it is because they earned it. Not because of the ethnic persuasion.
That was the whole crux of the initial article. it was merely a reprinting of the facts with no commentary other than to marvel at the anomaly.
On another note…it is ironic that you mention Einstein as I published an article on him this morning….see The Lang Report’s front page!
One last thing that I always found interesting. I once read of argument that states that the word “chosen” as it is used to infer that the Jews were somehow special and favored by god is not accurate.
The translation is actually “choosing” inferring that a Jew has the free will or the power of “choice”!
Interesting, huh?
It is amazing how translation and editing can comepletely change the meaning of something, in this case “The Bible” and Talmudic scripture.
That is one of the reasons why I have trouble with any book or books being hailed as the word og god.
Do you know the story of how the books of the bible were assembled? As a writer I find it fascinating that an assortment of books written centuries ago, asssembled and edited by all sorts of people, each with their own agandas can can be held up as the word of god…or god inspired…or any other????
Check out: http://www.thelangreport.com/?p=123
Until then…thanks for the feedback.
Mike Lang
Publisher
By Jacob on May 17, 2008 | Reply
Why not make your next article
“Jewish Athlete’s… Why so few?”
By Michael Lang on May 17, 2008 | Reply
Jacob, interesting topic. It is now on our publishing schedule and you will be able to see it soom.
Thanks for the input.
Mike Lang
Publisher
By James on Jun 5, 2008 | Reply
Michael, why do you feel the need to respond to people like Dave? Doesn’t it just aggravate you? Here’s what I say whenever I encounter some anti-Semite (there is no shortage) on the internet…they are using technology helped created by Jews to insult Jews. They must have miserable lives if they waste their time doing this. So, let them continue being pathetic, low-minded jerks while we continue to try and help the world scientifically, technologically, culturally, socially, and every other way Jews have contributed to mankind. Shalom.
By Michael Lang on Jun 6, 2008 | Reply
Shalom James,
I often debate whether to respond to those that betray their own prejudices or worse. Often it ends up being an exercise in futility as their bias tends to run deep.
I do, however, have a responsibility to the Readers of The Lang Report that they may be clear about our principles and beliefs even it it causes additional controversey…especially if it causes more controversey!
Mike Lang
Publisher
By andrew lee on Jun 21, 2008 | Reply
imagine how many jews throughout history would have won a nobel prize if they existed?including jesus;his deciples;etc etc .also consider how many jewish wouldabins were murdered by the nazi nuts?
By Michael Lang on Jun 22, 2008 | Reply
Andrew, you pose a very interesting question to ponder. What if? That has been a question posed by historians and scholars, etc. concerning many issues that the holocaust impacted.
However, even with the extermination of so many Jews, they still managed to outperform every of segment of every society.
Michael Lang
Publisher
By andrew lee on Jun 23, 2008 | Reply
this guy david truly has the mind set of an antisemite.they always blame the victim rather than the perpetrator.the church has been blaming jews as christ killers for 2000 yrs.could that have had some impact?even today millions of religious christians are unaware that christ &his deciples&his family were jewish.its also true that most jew haters never even met one much less interacted with them.as unwelcomed residents in foreign lands ,jews had no means to refute the many lies taught to them by their church,parents&even their teachers.is it any wonder that israel is so important to the jewish people?
By Michael Lang on Jun 23, 2008 | Reply
Andrew, well said and very true!
Michael Lang
Pubisher
By David Goodman on Jun 23, 2008 | Reply
There have been a few interesting Davids down thru history.As regards immutable facts they speak for themselves and as for the reasons for
them Abrahams choice of homehelp is probably relevent
By David Goodman on Jun 23, 2008 | Reply
Hey Michael.Sorry I’m a slow reader.I note you have trouble accepting any book as the word of God. Got to admire your confidence but its a terribly high stakes game your up to bat in.Don’t know what the Torah or Talmud has to say about eternity but Websters dictionary reckons its a long time
By Billie Jean on Aug 4, 2008 | Reply
I have read all the comments I see that the Jews do not like to be told that they are wrong even though they make mistakes they still do not acknowledge them. This will go on until they accept that they are wrong. To hide one truth you need to lie a million times. Muslims Jews can live side by side their problem was created by the so called christians. As long as you have a third party thowing oil over them you will always find those to ignite it. Among the Arabs there are those who made a lot of money from the conflict as well as from the Jews. You call yourselves Jews you call yourselves Muslims yet you are neither as non of you have understood the reasons for being here. Keep on killing each other until the Two messiah come. I say two, one would be the real one and the other false one. The war of truth and falsehood will take us there. It will be in our interest to call right is right and wrong is wrong even those who lead us today. I hope that I have not offended anyone. Lets be honest and dignified and point fingers at those who benefit from the misery of fellow humans. God is our best witness. The day will come those who side with evil will be made to answer !.
By Billie Jean on Aug 4, 2008 | Reply
Now regards to the Nobel Prize winners we should salute them for their great acheivements. Most of them have been American Jews. Most of them saw hardship and suffering which made them strive and help the rest of mankind. Had any race suffered as much as the Jews they too would have become clever. Knowledge and money is the key motivation which we see all around us. Among the Muslims it has been the Iranian Shias who have suffered at the hands of Sunni rulers. They too have strived and went through suffering and produced great thinkers and scientists. I think when your survival depends upon Knowledge you are bound to exel in it. Look at history of the Jews in all centuries they were employed as advisers to the Muslims rulers. They held good positions. Thus they prospered through Knowledge. Muslims never hated them infact Jews are the only ones that they can share meat with. Their Khalifah Umar Al Khattab freed Jeruselem from the Christians went upto the temple mount which had been turned into a rubbish tip cleaned it with his bare hands. It was the crusaders who killed and burnt the Jews just as Hitler later repeated it. We will be judged by our intentions. Lastly how can anyone be a Jew or support the Jewish cause without accepting the Torah as word of GOD ? Mike Jews would have burnt you alive had you said that in Jeruselem !. If you think the Holy books are fabricated then why still be friends with the fabricators ? Why support them ? It does not fit you to say Shalom ! Shalom is for those worthy of following Gods commands not for those who think they know it all and radicule God’s words. Who are you trying to impress !.
By Billie Jean on Aug 6, 2008 | Reply
EARLY ZIONIST TERRORIST GANGS.
Soon after the end of World War II, there were three basic para-military Zionist organizations in Palestine, working against the Arab people, with the specific purpose of driving it out of Palestine. These were the Haganah, the Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang.
Before the British Mandate, the Jewish settlers had formed a group of mounted armed watchmen called “Hashomar” and with the advent of the British Mandate, it became the Haganah (Defense). With a membership of 60,000 Zionist Jews, the Haganah had a field army of 16,000 trained men and a unit called the Palmach, which was a full-time force, numbering about 6000.
The Irgun Zvai Leumi included between 3000 and 5000 armed terrorists, and grew out of the Haganah and its Palmach branch in 1933. The Irgun was not ready to obey the Jewish Agency which sought to dilute the terror of the Haganah in order not to lose its respectability.
In 1939, one of Irgun’s commanding officers, Abraham Stern, left the parent organization and formed the Stern Gang, numbering some 200 to 300 dangerous fanatics.
SOME EARLY EXAMPLES OF JEWISH-ZIONIST TERROR.
August 20, 1937 - June 29, 1939. During this period, the Zionists carried out a series of attacks against Arab buses, resulting in the death of 24 persons and wounding 25 others.
November 25, 1940. S.S.Patria was blown up by Jewish terrorists in Haifa harbour, killing 268 illegal Jewish immigrants (see below).
November 6, 1944. Zionist terrorists of the Stern Gang assassinated the British Minister Resident in the Middle East, Lord Moyne, in Cairo.
July 22, 1946. Zionist terrorists blew up the King David Hotel in Jerusalem, which housed the central offices of the civilian administration of the government of Palestine, killing or injuring more than 200 persons. The Irgun officially claimed responsibility for the incident, but subsequent evidence indicated that both the Haganah and the Jewish Agency were involved.
October 1, 1946. The British Embassy in Rome was badly damaged by bomb explosions, for which Irgun claimed responsibility.
June 1947. Letters sent to British Cabinet Ministers were found to contain bombs.
September 3, 1947. A postal bomb addressed to the British War Office exploded in the post office sorting room in London, injuring 2 persons. It was attributed to Irgun or Stern Gangs. (The Sunday Times, Sept. 24, 1972, p.8)
December 11, 1947. Six Arabs were killed and 30 wounded when bombs were thrown from Jewish trucks at Arab buses in Haifa; 12 Arabs were killed and others injured in an attack by armed Zionists on an Arab coastal village near Haifa.
December 13,1947. Zionist terrorists, believed to be members of Irgun Zvai Leumi, killed 18 Arabs and wounded nearly 60 in Jerusalem, Jaffa and Lydda areas. In Jerusalem, bombs were thrown in an Arab market-place near the Damascus Gate; in Jaffa, bombs were thrown into an Arab cafe; in the Arab village of Al Abbasya, near Lydda, 12 Arabs were killed in an attack with mortars and automatic weapons.
December 19, 1947. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blowing up two houses, in the ruins of which were found the bodies of 10 Arabs, including 5 children. Haganah admitted responsibility for the attack.
December 29, 1947. Two British constables and 11 Arabs were killed and 32 Arabs injured, at the Damascus Gate in Jerusalem when Irgun members threw a bomb from a taxi.
December 30,1947. A mixed force of the Zionist Palmach and the “Carmel Brigade” attacked the village of Balad al Sheikh, killing more than 60 Arabs.
1947 — 1948. Over 700,000 Palestinian Arabs were uprooted from their homes and land, and forced to live in refugee camps on Israel’s borders. They have been denied the right to return to their homes. They have been refused compensation for their homes, orchards, farms and other property stolen from them by the Israeli government. After their expulsion, the “Israeli Forces” totally obliterated (usually by bulldozing) 385 Arab villages and towns, out of a total of 475. Commonly, Israeli villages were built on the remaining rubble.
January 1, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked a village on the slopes of Mount Carmel; 17 Arabs were killed and 33 wounded.
January 4, 1948. Haganah terrorists wearing British Army uniforms penetrated into the center of Jaffa and blew up the Serai (the old Turkish Government House) which was used as a headquarters of the Arab National Committee, killing more than 40 persons and wounding 98 others.
January 5, 1948. The Arab-owned Semiramis Hotel in Jerusalem was blown up, killing 20 persons, among them Viscount de Tapia, the Spanish Consul. Haganah admitted responsibility for this crime.
January 7, 1948. Seventeen Arabs were killed by a bomb at the Jaffa Gate in Jerusalem, 3 of them while trying to escape. Further casualties, including the murder of a British officer near Hebron, were reported from different parts of the country.
January 16, 1948. Zionists blew up three Arab buildings. In the first, 8 children between the ages of 18 months and 12 years, died.
December 13, 1947 — February 10, 1948. Seven incidents of bomb-tossing at innocent Arab civilians in cafes and markets, killing 138 and wounding 271 others, During this period, there were 9 attacks on Arab buses. Zionists mined passenger trains on at least 4 occasions, killing 93 persons and wounding 161 others.
February 15, 1948. Haganah terrorists attacked an Arab village near Safad, blew up several houses, killing 11 Arabs, including 4 children..
March 3, 1948. Heavy damage was done to the Arab-owned Salam building in Haifa (a 7 story block of apartments and shops) by Zionists who drove an army lorry ( truck) up to the building and escaped before the detonation of 400 Ib. of explosives; casualties numbered 11 Arabs and 3 Armenians killed and 23 injured. The Stern Gang claimed responsibility for the incident.
March 22, 1948. A housing block in Iraq Street in Haifa was blown up killing 17 and injuring 100 others. Four members of the Stern Gang drove two truck-loads of explosives into the street and abandoned the vehicles before the explosion.
March 31, 1948. The Cairo-Haifa Express was mined, for the second time in a month, by an electronically-detonated land mine near Benyamina, killing 40 persons and wounding 60 others.
April 9, 1948. A combined force of Irgun Zvai Leumi and the Stern Gang, supported by the Palmach forces, captured the Arab village of Deir Yassin and killed more than 200 unarmed civilians, including countless women and children. Older men and young women were captured and paraded in chains in the Jewish Quarter of Jerusalem; 20 of the hostages were then shot in the quarry of Gevaat Shaul.
April 16, 1948. Zionists attacked the former British army camp at Tel Litvinsky, killing 90 Arabs there.
April 19, 1948. Fourteen Arabs were killed in a house in Tiberias, which was blown up by Zionist terrorists.
May 3, 1948. A book bomb addressed to a British Army officer, who had been stationed in Palestine exploded, killing his brother, Rex Farran.
May11, 1948. A letter bomb addressed to Sir Evelyn Barker, former Commanding Officer in Palestine, was detected in the nick of time by his wife.
April 25, 1948 — May 13, 1948. Wholesale looting of Jaffa was carried out following armed attacks by Irgun and Haganah terrorists. They stripped and carried away everything they could, destroying what they could not take with them.
THE SS PATRIA.
November 25, 1940. In September, 1940, around 3,000 Jewish refugees from Vienna, Prague and Danzig were attempting to reach Palestine. In a convoy of four river steamers, they set sail down the Danube and reached the Romanian port of Tulcea where they transferred to three Greek cargo ships named Atlantic, Pacific and Milos. Conditions on board these three ships were horrendous, reminiscent of Japanese hell-ships later in the war. Eventually the ships reached Palestinian waters, but the British Colonial Office refused them permission to land. It was finally decided to deport the refugees to the island of Mauritius where a special camp was to be built. The three ships were then brought into Haifa harbour where the liner Patria was berthed. The refugees were then embarked on the Patria and as the last passengers from the Atlantic were coming on board, a tremendous explosion ripped the liner apart. The death toll amounted to 267 refugees killed. The explosion was the work of the Jewish underground army, the Haganah, who had meant only to damage the ship to prevent it sailing but had miscalculated the amount of explosives needed to disable the ship. Many say that this was no miscalculation and was deliberate murder of Jews by Jews, in an attempt to influence British immigration policy to Palestine.
A LIGHT UNTO THE NATIONS.
The first act of air piracy in the history of civil aviation was carried out by Israel, in Dec. 1954, when a civilian Syrian airliner was forced down in Tel Aviv and its passengers and crew held for days, despite international condemnation.
In 1968, Israeli commandos blew up 13 civilian airliners at Beirut airport in Lebanon.
The first deliberate shooting down a civilian airliner was carried out by Israel, when a Libyan airliner was shot down by Israeli jet fighters over Sinai, in Feb. 1973, on the direct orders of Israeli Prime Minister Golda Meir, killing all 107 of its passengers and the entire French crew.
By Jad on Aug 6, 2008 | Reply
This comparison is unfair. The chinese amount to 20% of the world population but there aren’t many chinese Nobel laureates. Does that mean that the chinese have inferior intelligence? I don’t think so. People receive Nobel prizes for their contribution to 3 scientific fields and two humanetarian fields. In the scientific arena, scientists who live in the first world and have access to world class facilities are those who typically excel and deserve a Nobel prize. It is not a testimony of their intelligence as much as it is a manifestation of the serendipity of their birth place. Had the Nobel prize existed one thousand years ago when the Islamic empire was at its peak and Europe in the dark ages, I suspect the muslims would have swept all the prize categories for centuries. In the humanetarian arena, I suspect that the choice of those who are given the peace prize is highly politicized and those who are given the literature prize is highly subjective and definitely influenced by a western preference. Literature is by definition subjective and what I may like in an author is not necessarily what other may like. Therefore I will have to discount the two humanetrian categories as being meaningless as indicators of racial or ethnic superiority. In conclusion I hope the readers will agree with me that the fact that a certain race has a high number of Nobel prize winners today is by no means a true reflection of the superiority of that race but merely an artifact of being in the right place at the right time.
By Bob S on Aug 10, 2008 | Reply
Billie Jean. If the topic is Nobel Prize winners, what does your one-sided propaganda have to do with the topic? You forget about the more than 1 million Israeli Arabs that live in peace within Israel’s borders, who are represented in the Knesset by their own elected representatives and have their own houses of worship (Mosques). These Israeli Arabs are descendents of Arabs that stayed out of the 1947, 1948 wars and did not leave in anticipation of the Israeli’s being driven “into the sea” and therefore kept their homes and land to this day. Those Arabs who voluntarily abandoned their land and chose the wrong side became refugees.
How many synagogues and churches exist in our friend and ally country: Saudi Arabia? The answer is zero!
During the first Gulf War when Americans were dying to protect the Saudis, the Saudis were concerned and therefore insured that no Americans were buried on their soil so that their land would not be “defiled” by non-Muslims.
It is pretty clear that Islam’s plan is whole world subjugation and domination–the destruction of all religions except Islam, the elimination of the freedoms and quality of life we enjoy now. At that point there will be no Nobel Prize, no science, no modern civilization, no Lang Report and no progress (a la Taliban).
I hope that the World will see and take action to prevent sending those of us who survive back to the Stone Age.
By Michael Lang on Aug 11, 2008 | Reply
The response to this article has amazed me for reasons I chose to express in another article I just published in The Lang Report. You can read it at: http://www.thelangreport.com/wp-admin/post.php?action=edit&post=1127
Michael Lang
Publisher
By Ike on Aug 31, 2008 | Reply
On a TV discussion show, I once heard someone bring up the assertion that ‘the Jews’ perpetrated 9/11.
The host’s comment was priceless:’Frankly, we’re just not that mechanically inclined!’
————————-just keeping it light, here.
By Michael Lang on Sep 1, 2008 | Reply
HA,HA…..I’m all for keeping it light. Some of my best friends are wise asses.
Mike Lang
Publisher
By Brad on Sep 4, 2008 | Reply
I want to respond to Jad’s comment above of August 6th, 2008.
According to Jad, “In the scientific arena, scientists who live in the first world and have access to world class facilities are those who typically excel and deserve a Nobel prize. It is not a testimony of their intelligence as much as it is a manifestation of the serendipity of their birth place.”
I would simply like to point out the faulty logic of this argument. Jad claims that the fact that a statistically higher proportion of Jews have won Nobel prizes is due to the fact that they reside/were born in the first world, rather then genetically superior intellect.
If this argument were true, then how come other ethnicities with significant populations in the first world, have not won a similar proportion of Nobel prizes? For instance, how come Muslim Americans have not one a similarly large proportion of Nobel Prizes?
By Shalom Freedman on Oct 10, 2008 | Reply
1) The best article on the subject of Jewish Nobel Prize winners was written by the non- Jewish scholar Charles Murray. He is also the world’s great expert on cultural achievement in general.
2) It is regrettable that there are so many nutcase Anti- Semites on the world. A few just appeared on this site. It is not true as one of them claims that most Jewish Nobel Prize winners have been Americans though Jews have won around forty percent of American Nobel Prizes.
3) The disproportionate contribution of Jews to the scientific medical and cultural life of Mankind as evidenced in Nobel Prize statistics is a fact of past and present. But it need not necessarily be true in the future, if a larger percentage of Jews decide to cut themselves off from the world of secular learning. Let’s hope that does not happen.
By Michael Lang on Oct 10, 2008 | Reply
Shalom, thank you for your comment and mention of Charles Murray.
Ironically, I had planned to do some follow articles on this subject because it has generated comments running the gamut and I too find it fascinating and worthy of further investigation.
Look for these postings and most likely some re-publishing of some of Murray’s work as well.
Shalom,
Michael Lang - Publisher
By David on Oct 13, 2008 | Reply
Billie Jean has done an excellent job of research. Excellent at researching half the story. She neglects to list the vast number of incidents perpetrated by the Arabs and forgets to take into account that it was war, and a war that was started by several organized Arab national armies invading a state that was a day old and had no true national military organization and support from only one country in the entire world (Czechoslovakia). Also, yes, 700,000 Arabs were uprooted and kept in refugee camps. But these were people the invading armies told to leave while they wiped the new state off the map and could return home shortly. An equal number of Jews were forced out of Arab countries at the same time without recompense. They are mentioned in the UN calls for refugee returns but hardly anyone acknowledges them. As to refugee camps, for 20 years, they were on Arab controlled lands. Did the Egyptian and Jordanian hosts, or Saudi financiers offer to help them? No. After 1967, their literacy and economic standards went from the worst in the Arab world to the best. It’s a horrible situation, no doubt. But if two peoples start at the same point on a patch of sand and one lifts themselves up by the bootstraps and creates farmland and forests, and the other wallows in the mire, don’t blame the successful one.
By Mikkel Nielsen on Oct 15, 2008 | Reply
To answer the question of “why so many.”
Jewish people accounted for 98% of professorial jobs. If a grad student discovered something, it would simply be accredited to the principal investigator. My PI is in fact Jewish.
Mikkel Nielsen
Copenhagen, Denmark
By Fisher on Oct 27, 2008 | Reply
Let’s not kid ourselves here about why Jews are disproportionately represented as Nobel noblemen. I’m not trying to undermine our dizzying level of achievement, but the Nobel prize is anything BUT apolitical. We’re all aware of the participation that the less honorable side of the Jewish world population has in political movements meant only to undermine and exploit the political structures and societies that they infiltrate for the sake of power alone. No matter how small that segment of our population may be, they’re well organized and very powerful and probably have little or no actual devotion to the political rhetoric that they back. They work for, what they believe, to be the good of Jewry. With that in mind, take a look at the Norwegian Nobel Committee. It’s composed, completely, of POLITICIANS! Do you really think that this prize is apolitical? That merit cannot be manufactured to a certain extent? Now take a look at Norwegian and Swedish politics (which are a corrupt joke). Oh, did I mention that we control their newspapers and media?
We’re talking about a committee that awarded Menachem Begin. Begin is a sicko. A vocal Jewish Supremacist. A hate-machine awarded the Nobel Prize after he handed over the Sinai Peninsula in an obvious PR campaign. I’m an academic who works in a field populated by many other Jews as a university populated by many other Jewish scholars. The Nobel topic comes up annually and a few of us are able to admit that the prize is a huge joke. Let’s not kid ourselves, alright? And please don’t behave like the silly nationalists you probably claim to have nothing in common with by attributing “achievements” to yourself that you had absolutely nothing to do with, by proxy.
By Mr. Feldman on Nov 15, 2008 | Reply
There is an “air” of superiority in the article. As easy as it is to pass of Dave as an anti-semite, I believe that one of the reasons why we have been persecuted for so long has to do with our lack of humility… which is very much in God’s character. Pride is an ugly trait and it prevents us from seeing our own faults, which is the biggest reason that keeps us apart from the God we have chosen.
God is the highest… He has no need to defend Himself or show how He is the highest. The more one is in tune with God’s character, the more people around them will be drawn by the light that the individual emits. There is no need to prove to the world who we are. God knows. Even though the article is hidden with “facts,” the heart behind the article was not in a good place when written.
By Michael Lang on Nov 17, 2008 | Reply
Mr. Feldman, you speak of humiltiy which I concur is an attractive quality and character asset that should be cultivated, in my opinion.
It does always seem contradictory to speak of humility and then claim to know so much about what god wants….to think that you know what’s best for the world. WHAT ARROGANCE!
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By Fisher on Nov 20, 2008 | Reply
Yet he says nothing to the probability that the Nobel “prize” is most likely an “honor” of bureaucracy that is purchased with far greater frequency than it is achieved. I fear that ours is a people who, now all too often, use their organized will and power to purchase their acclaim, and because of that, their modern cultural identity.
“WHAT ARROGANCE!”
By Gabe on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply
Kind of late to this, so I don’t know if it’ll be read, but I just wanted to point out that Dave made an interesting point (amid lots of stuff I disagree with) that hasn’t been addressed:
Dave said “I hate the people that use their parents as a source of pride rather than their own accomplishments and character.”
To which Michael Lang responded “You spoke of being recognized for ‘their own accomplishment’…. Isn’t receiving the Nobel Prize an accomplishment given solely for acheivement.”
I believe this misses the point. Dave was saying that *Michael* has no reason to be proud since *Michael* has not won a Nobel prize. Dave’s argument was that Michael shouldn’t be proud for things others have done; rather pride should be found in one’s own accomplishments and character.
Hence, the response that the Nobel prize is offered on merit misses the mark. The people who carried out the research and won the prize have good cause to be proud of their accomplishment. Someone else who happens to share some arbitrary characteristic with them does not, whether it’s ethnic heritage, first name, height, or whatever.
I’m 6′ tall. Would it make any sense for me to vicariously enjoy recognition for Nobel prizes by other people 6′ tall?
It’s an interesting point Dave raised, and to be clear I’m not entirely sure I agree with it. I post this simply because I think his point was misinterpreted and didn’t get the treatment it deserved.
By Michael Lang on Nov 27, 2008 | Reply
Gabe, I decided to respond so you would know that your efforts what not for naught.
I understand you reasoning and do not disagree except for one thing.
I believe it is one thing if I lived and “felt pride” vicariously through the efforts of others however that is not where I personally come from.
It is more akin to feeling joy when the Miami Dolphins win a football game. Did I have anything to do with their win….no! But I do get excited and boast to friends of the win. Yes!
I feel pride in being a Jew from a cultural perspective as I am actually a “Bright” by definition. (You can read about it in an article published today on TLR)
So when I read the Nobel prize stats I feel the same as if “my team” won.
Get it?
Are Jews smarter, as a cultural group, then other groups? I’ll let you draw your own conclusions.
In the mean time…YEA Jews!
Michael Lang
Publisher
By George on Dec 7, 2008 | Reply
It’s interesting to note that 11% of all Nobel prizes have gone to people with Scottish heritage. The reason is the same as why Jews have had a disproportionate share: a culture of well-rounded education, inquiry, and above all, a desire to observe the world first, and explain it second. Many groups, especially religious groups but also national or ethnic cultures, are more concerned with obedience, and validation of beliefs. When your tendency is to validate something you already believe, you are not going to draw new conclusions: you are not going to move in the direction of a Nobel prize. Jews are very decentralized and individualistic in exactly how and what they believe but do care about family and community and humanity (”healing the world”), and they do place a very strong priority on good thinking and observation. Scots invented many things we take for granted (think of Adam Smith, David Hume, Andrew Carnegie, James Watt, the inflated tire, asphalt, raincoats, much more), because they basically invented modern liberal arts education, believing that if people know about and share as much as possible, they can move knowledge forward, and that civilization and knowledge can progress (this was not a common view before the Scottish Enlightenment).
By George on Dec 7, 2008 | Reply
Regarding comments on why so few Jewish athletes, it’s not true. When Jews were mostly confined to urban spaces, they excelled in basketball and a number of them were on pro teams. Think Red Auerbach and others. They helped establish modern techniques of defense and hard passing. There were also many Jewish football players in the 30s and 40s and one of them, a quarterback on the Brooklyn Dodgers football team, helped make the passing game a big part of pro football. You can find examples in other sports as well–boxing, baseball (Sandy Koufax is the more famous one), others. No one would claim some hugely pivotal role for Jews, just that they have done well and enjoyed sports, and those who only notice the Woody Allen stereotypes aren’t really paying attention.
By 8039 on Jan 10, 2009 | Reply
I think you forgot to mention that Ashkenazi Jews are the ones who won most of these awards. Askenazi those being from Eastern Europe like Poland and Russia. And some in Western Europe like Germany.
Ashkenazi jews are also considered the people with highest average IQ’s
By coco wawa on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply
if there is an award for killing crimes bad invents the jews definitely will won them all and thats their story in life to destroy others so that they can get nobels and earn more money!!! im not envying them !!! but truly i feel bad for their luck to be an example for other people so that we can be better people any way do u know people why hitler didnot kill all jew when he was able to do that in hours?????????????????????????
he said…i wanted to leave some alive so that you will know why i was killing them.!
By DF on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply
OK– coco wawa wins the Nobel for the nuttiest raving lunatic incomprehensible comment by someone who must have had help working the computer because what can be understood from that word salad betrays an IQ not much greater than the average broken household appliance.
Meanwhile, thanks all for a fascinating discussion. Jews have made phenomenal and remarkable achievements in the face of waves of unrelenting hostility. To the anti-Semites who want to know why the world hates the Jews, I submit that, unlike the other cultures today and throughout history, Jews have celebrated the achievements of others and extended a hand — even to their enemies — to help them gain such achievements. No other culture on the face of the earth can say the same — except that great experiment we call America. And so you have a convergence where not only do Americans and Jews each win a disproportional number of Nobels but American Jews win the highest percentage yet.
People hate those who expose their foibles, even when they expose them only by their very existence. Anti-Semites seem filled with hate, but those who hate others for the mere fact of their existence are merely telegraphing their shame at being inferior to the human race. Some haters are even smart enough to know this, but all haters have the innate sense to feel it. They are to be pitied.
By Michael Lang on Feb 1, 2009 | Reply
DF, thanks for restoring some semblance of sanity to The Lang Report. I wasn’t sure if I was going to respond to the earlier comment as I didn’t think that anything I might say would penetrate the ignorance, bias and whatever other deficiency the writer suffers from.
So thanks for taking the initiative because your comment was right on the money.
Keep coming back to TLR as we need more readers like yourself.
Mike Lang
Publisher
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Also, Jews seem to be more advanced humans, both in technological capacity and the capacity to love. It may be that most people dislike the idea of Jews being superior, so the Jews seem to be paying a price (like the Exodus and the Holocaust) for their greater awareness of the world
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By Qwert on Apr 20, 2009 | Reply
Had the Nobel Prize been handed out in the medieval era, when Avicenna was developing modern medicine, and ibn al-Haytham establishing the foundations of physics and optics, Geber with chemistry, Biruni with anthropology, etc., while the Jews had their heads up their asses living off under the Arabs’ protection (reminding Lang of that, you ungrateful prick), it would have been a different story.
How credible is the Nobel prize, really, when Norwegians politicians, not academics, and most of whom belong to flagrantly pro-Israeli right-wing conservative parties, choose the awards’ recipients? Haven’t there been enough controversies to remove any credibility left from the Nobel prize, such as when Begin, a despicable terrorist who later ordered the massacre of over 3000 Palestinians at Sabra and Shatila, was given the peace prize? Or when Arab and Muslim scientists and academics, such as the Syrian poet Adonis, were repeatedly overlooked for ambiguous reasons?
Maybe the Jews, given their history of loyalty towards their host countries and their pacifist behavior, should all be given Nobel peace prizes.
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